tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post2872552918096779893..comments2024-03-16T12:12:17.562-04:00Comments on Model Rocket Building: New Estes Kit - Red NovaChris Michielssenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06907925631001358372noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-51273259819166977572017-08-09T17:20:00.696-04:002017-08-09T17:20:00.696-04:00I do remember being a bit confused when someone sh...I do remember being a bit confused when someone showed me their Estes Boeing ALCM Cruise Missile model -- I'd always remembered that kit being a Centuri kit. I'm not sure if the kits were completely different or not -- but the decals looked nearly identical.Naoto Kimurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02762712349150120196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-24834180678602017462017-08-09T17:17:25.291-04:002017-08-09T17:17:25.291-04:00If I'm not mistaken, the Estes F-61 Starfighte...If I'm not mistaken, the Estes F-61 Starfighter kit (kit 1358) uses the detail parts (canopy, missiles, drop tanks) previously used in the fighter jet kits form Centuri. Also from the scans I see of the decal sheet -- it looks almost like a rework of the one from the F-16 kit.Naoto Kimurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02762712349150120196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-29814583685492388202017-08-09T17:12:47.358-04:002017-08-09T17:12:47.358-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Naoto Kimurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02762712349150120196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-8703427638981987162017-08-09T16:57:31.747-04:002017-08-09T16:57:31.747-04:00... or it might be. Centuri and Estes had generall...... or it might be. Centuri and Estes had generally used different body tube sizes, but by the early 1980s there seemed to be some "crossover". If I'm not mistaken the Centuri Spacemaster was BT-50 sized and its nosecone showed up in the Estes Falcon Commander. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Centuri Python Fighter is also BT-50 sized and the nosecone showed up in Estes kits (e.g. Orion, Manta Bomber, etc). The Estes Firecat (kit 1378) has an unusual body tube size (for Estes) and features nosecone that appears to be the one used in the Buck Rogers Earth Forces Laser Lance kit from Centuri.Naoto Kimurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02762712349150120196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-69580819551187253662017-08-09T16:51:01.199-04:002017-08-09T16:51:01.199-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Naoto Kimurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02762712349150120196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-81598796445109867472017-08-09T11:07:17.092-04:002017-08-09T11:07:17.092-04:00Hi Buzz,
I agree - I had the old Teros kit and the...Hi Buzz,<br />I agree - I had the old Teros kit and the nose cone had the ramjet "stepped" look. Chris Michielssenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06907925631001358372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-6027718558847170512017-08-09T07:25:19.916-04:002017-08-09T07:25:19.916-04:00Small note - The BT-55 ramjet cone has a much clos...Small note - The BT-55 ramjet cone has a much closer resemblance to the Talos than the BT-60 cone for the Red Nova.Eagle3https://www.blogger.com/profile/07035392096609326111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-65831529757438649732017-08-09T00:20:26.542-04:002017-08-09T00:20:26.542-04:00Hi Manuel,
It wasn't Centuri tooling. The Cent...Hi Manuel,<br />It wasn't Centuri tooling. The Centuri body tube sizes were different from the Estes tubes with one exception - the ST-5 and BT-5 were both the same.Chris Michielssenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06907925631001358372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-72124302586416500452017-08-08T20:56:41.356-04:002017-08-08T20:56:41.356-04:00I thought it was the Estes 1285 Teros but that is ...I thought it was the Estes 1285 Teros but that is a BT-50. So is the old Wolverine. I checked Jim Z site to see if Teros was BT-60. Could it be a Centuri tooling he has ?NJROChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802938323074630468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-60138171739486461892017-08-08T16:33:58.087-04:002017-08-08T16:33:58.087-04:00And if I remember correctly, one Talos missile act...And if I remember correctly, one Talos missile actually took down two MIGs. First one got hit, and the second one went down after it flew through the debris cloud.BAR Geezerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981340513882399606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-62393867054515093352017-08-08T15:08:11.593-04:002017-08-08T15:08:11.593-04:00Manuel,
Do you know which kit? Let John Boren...Manuel,<br /> Do you know which kit? Let John Boren know at YORF. He's wondering too.BAR Geezerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981340513882399606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-64932507313933960772017-08-08T14:26:56.317-04:002017-08-08T14:26:56.317-04:00The nosecone did come from a 1970s kit. The actua...The nosecone did come from a 1970s kit. The actually Talos missile get its claim to fame around 1965 when several were used to knock down Mig 17 and Mig 19 jets that were apparently making runs on the US Navy during the first troop landings at Da-Nang (aka China Beach).<br />The Vietnamese left the US Navy alone off shore after they ate a few Talos Missiles.NJROChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10802938323074630468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-39562180463686707662017-08-08T11:31:17.269-04:002017-08-08T11:31:17.269-04:00The upper stage would be kind of stubby, but this ...The upper stage would be kind of stubby, but this needs to be two stage. I will be getting one when they come out, for sure.metalhead1986https://www.blogger.com/profile/10398186667236630069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-8098907385149858942017-08-08T10:12:54.785-04:002017-08-08T10:12:54.785-04:00Thought this looked vaguely familiar, so I went ba...Thought this looked vaguely familiar, so I went back and double checked. With the exception of the double set of fins, this strongly resembles the Teros (Talos?) kit #1285. Even to the ramjet style nose cone. Cheers.BAR Geezerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981340513882399606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-76521880043874061612017-08-08T09:47:09.395-04:002017-08-08T09:47:09.395-04:00Those fins definitely are inspired by the front fi...Those fins definitely are inspired by the front fins of the Talos SAM. The nose cone looks like a cross between the ramjet and MX missile nose cones. Looks like my build pile will be growing (and my pocketbook shrinking) pretty soon. Laters.BAR Geezerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981340513882399606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-18367546184937496412017-08-08T09:03:21.100-04:002017-08-08T09:03:21.100-04:00Hi Openroad,
Yep, it's a BT-60 based model, 24...Hi Openroad,<br />Yep, it's a BT-60 based model, 24mm engine. <br />I don't remember ever seeing that plastic nose cone in a kit before.Chris Michielssenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06907925631001358372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612012025300219489.post-35887444269539319282017-08-08T07:15:35.039-04:002017-08-08T07:15:35.039-04:00The Flip Flyer is a hoot! A real favorite with ki...The Flip Flyer is a hoot! A real favorite with kids when I do demo launches. I like the chunky scale-like look of the Red Nova - if I read the dimensions correctly from your picture it's a BT-60 body tube? Openroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12277616598984850719noreply@blogger.com